"I lived in an apartment, one of six apartments in this one building. Living there involved several apartment inspections in the course of a year. Nothing was allowed outside the window or building. I ran a wire around the living room ceiling (estimate about 45 feet) hooked it up to my SGC 230 tuner, ran a ground wire in a pile on the floor under a small cabinet ( estimate 30' ). I worked a lot of county's and managed to check into some HF nets. ( trying to keep my talking to a minimum, didn't want to push my luck.) worked a lot of simple contests. being able to change bands instantly. All thanks to my SGC-230 tuner. Worth every penny!"